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David Douglas-Withers - Letters 1942
Mainly between David's father and housemaster at Eton.
FROM H.K. MARSDEN. ETON COLLEGE, WINDSOR. TEL. WINDSOR 20
Dear Douglas-Withers
Here are David's reports, which are a trifle colourless though by no means unpleasant reading, and he has for the first time since his early days touched the first class line in Trials: much of his advancement is due to Science, which is hardly in accord with his report. I don't think that he finds it very-easy going in any sphere and there is nothing to find fault with in his application.
In a short and broken half there is not much that is new to tell you: out of doors, the weather has to a large extent taken charge, and David had not much use for the rather second rate ice that afforded some amusement. I am glad that he got his cox's colours, but I never had much doubt that he would; and he will now have to show his value in public. I am rather glad that they did not put him onto an VIII at once, in the rather difficult conditions of February, as he might well have blurred his copybook through inexperience of strong streams.
In the house he has behaved himself and there is nothing to tell you that I have not said before.
I hear that you are coming South, and will soon be closer at hand: you will doubtless give me your new address.
Yours sincerely
Marsden
The Moat House.
Lymm Hall.
Lymm.
13-4-42
Dear Marsden
Thank you for David's report. He seems to have done quite reasonably well and I'm glad he managed to get his Lower Boats.
I note what you say about his untidy work but it has always been so and his letters home are at sometimes pretty dreadful. If there is a cure I hope it will be applied in time however drastic since it does so much to neutralise the value of his work.
We shall be going South on Thursday and our address will be No. 2 Fellows Road Farnborough Hants where we shall be in rooms until we get a house or a flat in London. They are very comfortable rooms, we were in them when the war started, having fortunately just given up our house and stored our furniture. We were just on the verge of settling finally at Tilford but the war prevented us signing on the dotted line.
I am now retiring from the Army after 37 years of soldiering (less five years with the Tattoo) and shall I hope be taking up some other form of work after a short rest during which I hope to see a little of David at Eton. I seem to have seen so very little of his school days - the best I think for a father!
Our Farnborough address is very temporary so I think our permanent address for the Chronicle list had better be The Bath Club, St James' Street SW1.
By the way I note that you have not deducted the £10 from the account this last half. If this was a mistake I will adjust it but if it is correct and should not this time have been deducted let me know?
I hope David will continue to do well on the river this next half. He is well and in very good form. It is good to have him home and for the first time for many holidays to be able to see something of him. He remains a cheerful useful companion and we are both glad to hear that he is no trouble insofar as you are concerned.
Yours sincerely
FROM H.K. MARSDEN, ETON COLLEGE, WINDSOR. TEL. WINDSOR 20Aug 2 1942Dear Douglas-Withers
David gets good enough reports, though his actual places in his divisions are nothing startling; but he has got his first class in Trials, and has clearly not been idle. I am not too happy about his Mathematics, which never seem to come off, and are very important for RN: I don't think he is stupid at them, but his faults of presentation and untidiness do him a lot of harm.
He will now have to get down to his Science and we'll be doing a lot of Physics & Chemistry next half: he has to offer Math, Science and a third subject, which can be anything he likes.
As I promised, he has had an active time on the river, chiefly in a sedentary capacity, though he has done a bit of sculling. Unless he grows out of recognition, he ought to be coxing the VIII next year, as I don't think the present cox can remain light enough.
He has had a busy half, with work that he could only just manage, and a lot of time taken up on the river: and there is not much to tell you of him in the house, as he is never there. However I think he is one of those folk who like to be well occupied and he never gives us any trouble.
At one time he was thought to be getting a bit swollen in the head but I have not noticed anything myself, and next half he returns to a phase of being a nonentity.
David gets good enough reports, though his actual places in his divisions are nothing startling; but he has got his first class in Trials, and has clearly not been idle. I am not too happy about his Mathematics, which never seem to come off, and are very important for RN: I don't think he is stupid at them, but his faults of presentation and untidiness do him a lot of harm.
He will now have to get down to his Science and we'll be doing a lot of Physics & Chemistry next half: he has to offer Math, Science and a third subject, which can be anything he likes.
As I promised, he has had an active time on the river, chiefly in a sedentary capacity, though he has done a bit of sculling. Unless he grows out of recognition, he ought to be coxing the VIII next year, as I don't think the present cox can remain light enough.
He has had a busy half, with work that he could only just manage, and a lot of time taken up on the river: and there is not much to tell you of him in the house, as he is never there. However I think he is one of those folk who like to be well occupied and he never gives us any trouble.
At one time he was thought to be getting a bit swollen in the head but I have not noticed anything myself, and next half he returns to a phase of being a nonentity.
Yours sincerely
Marsden
2 Fellows Road
Farnborough.
Hants
August 12th 42.
Thank you for David's reports which I agree are good enough, at least for any normal parents. I am fully prepared for him to find the Navy a stiff fence to tackle particularly as I hear that the competition is severe. He is still terribly untidy in his letters home (he always has been) and I do feel that that will handicap him a lot in his future work unless he makes a change. He seems pretty much all there in most things and on the whole a very able person. He has, of his own bat, suggested that he should be an engineer if he fails for the Navy. If he really wants that, and can get the distance, I am only too glad to know what he does want, and to start in early with any work likely to help him. He will in any case want Maths! We shall come over next half for his confirmation and that will give me a chance of talking over the engineering idea with you. By the way if there is any form to fill in regarding Confirmation will you let me have it in due course.
I was particularly interested in your remarks regarding his being somewhat swollen headed and confess that I watched for signs of this very carefully whenever I had the chance to do so. We notice to a very marked change in him this half particularly the latter part of it. He had always to us been a child but suddenly seem to make a rapid step towards manhood. I knew that his somewhat rapid promotion would bring him into contact with boys senior and older than himself and wondered how that would affect him and so kept my eyes open. I saw nothing whatsoever to suggest a swollen head, in fact quite the opposite, and we watched him when he was not aware of our presence. He never has in his life been a bit that way, but of course he has never had any reason to be until recently. Two incidents gave me very real cause for suspicion but the rest of his behavior was so much the other way that I came to the conclusion that it was just youth asserting itself. However he knows what I think about this particular weakness in anyone and will not I think develop it unless I have got him all wrong. I see that Butterwick found no conceit in him - perhaps a second opinion worth having? The boy never boasts of what he has done or what he may do and it is indeed hard to get much out of him. He will always talk about other boys and is invariably generous in his remarks about them. He has gone off harvesting with Robin Squires today - and what a day!!
Dec 21 1942
Dear Douglas-Withers
David gets reports which are in no way damnatory, but they're not very enthusiastic from the purely intellectual point of view, and I'm seriously concerned about his Mathematics, which have crashed in two Trials: he has been intentionally put in a highish division, in order to get him ahead, but he seems a bit out of his depth, and I think he must do more out of school, as it is vitally important for him, and is not far off being his worst subject, at any rate as expressed on paper. I do not think his mind is hopeless, but he can only be judged by what he shows up.
The rest of his work is decent enough, and I know that he has not wasted his time; and his mark in Trials within sight of a first class is a creditable performance, which an adequate mark in Math, would have consummated.
It has been a dull half for him in the matter of games: he is too small to be much use at football among those of his age, and he has been unable to share in the rather spectacular successes of the house.
But otherwise he has had a busy time with recruiting, confirmation and two extra books; and I did not think that he would stand any extra work this half.
I think he took his confirmation seriously and in the right spirit, indeed with more thought than many boys: he has some difficulties which I did my best to resolve, though I was not convinced that I succeeded.
In the house he gets along all right, and is quite a persona grata with others.
I think your idea of engineering is quite sensible, and his preparation for the Navy will stand in in good stead, and indeed he could do nothing better so long as he is here: I do not quite follow with that you refer to civil engineering or to the engine room in the Navy; if it is the latter, the same examination will serve for either and there is less competition for engineering than for upper deck. But for all these and the like of them, he must be competent at Mathematics.
I was sorry not to see more due at the time of confirmation, but one is very much pressed during the half.
Yours sincerely
Marsden
Owner of original | Myles |
Date | 1942 |
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